TIR Destiny CG Commercial LED Flood Light

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TIR Destiny CG Commercial LED Flood Light


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What is the TIR Flood?

These are commercial RGB outdoor DMX floodlights designed and sold by TIR. They are Model Number: Destiny CG-WGO-RGB-CUS-V2 These lights were originally mounted on the Duke Energy Building and were replaced with other RGB fixtures. DIYC member rfallatt arranged to buy the lights from the building and offered them to users via a group buy in August 2012. There was a mixture of working and bad units sold. The bad units suffered from water entering either the control module or the power supply. TIR Systems (in Canada) were considered the leader in outdoor LED systems and were also popular with large dance halls. They were a public stock company until 2007 when Phillips purchased them.

Manufacturer's Description

  • Effective grazing illumination up to 30' with smooth gradient
  • Effective projector flood light up to 30'
  • Available with narrow or wide asymmetric optics
  • Uniform color mixing with 48 Luxeon® LEDs
  • DMX512 compatibility for dynamic color control
  • TIR® Thermal management system protects electronic components from heat damage
  • Robust construction suitable for outdoor applications
  • Operational and environmental benefits of LED technology

How does the TIR Flood work?

These are RGB flood lights that are controlled via DMX and possibly via an unidentified ethernet based protocol. There is a 5 pin XLR DMX connector that comes configured for DMX input only. Out of the box these units respond to DMX channels 1-3 when powered up and connected to a signal source. These units will fall back to a test sequence if the DMX signal is not applied. The test sequence is a series of color fades. The units also come with a ethernet cable attached and the control protocol has not been established for using it.

Dimensions of the TIR Flood

Full Fixture (with all connectors) H 14.5 X W 16.5 X 5.5 and ~26 lbs

TIR Flood Components

Connectors

The units come equipped with a 15A 125vAC 3 Pin Twistlock power plug, a RJ45 ethernet interface cable and a 5 PIN XLR DMX cable attached. The power and DMX cable come out of the base of the mounting bracket thru the waterproof cable holders. The ethernet cable is tucked inside the base of the mounting bracket and has a rubber waterproof sleeve on the end.

Housing

The main housing has the sealed LED Assembly attached to the front and has an internal compartment open to the environment that houses the waterproof control module and the waterproof power supply.

LED Assembly

The flood lights have 48 Luxeon LEDs mounted in a sealed module on the front of the unit. There are 16 each of Red, Blue and Green. The LEDs are mounted on two PCB boards. The LEDs are arranged in a 2x6 array for each color on the upper PCB and 1x4 on the lower PCB. This video shows how to test the LED Assembly when removed from the housing.

Control Module

There is a control module that drives the LEDs and responds to the DMX commands provided to it thru the DMX interface. The Control Module is mounted inside a waterproof housing and is attached to the rear heatsink with a generous amount of heatsink compound. Inside of the Control Module there are some HEXFETs that appear to be driving the LEDs (IRL510S). There's a LM2676 5V regulator nearby some of these. The only large chip on the board is on the backside - has a LDT logo on it, with a LD71D1048C designation.

Ethernet Module

There is an ethernet module mounted inside the control module. The interface to this module has not been identified yet. Technical Information about the Netburner ethernet module. The NetBurner module uses the ColdFire MCF5282 processor. Using the Netburner IP program, one user got the following response "MOD5282 Unit: at 192.168.1.47 running :LuminaireFX (3081041) $Date: 2005/02/04 18:42:48 $, $Name: B_Dma6Aug2004_MainTest $".

Power Supply

The power supply is a 100-240 VAC input and 24.5VDC 3.3A output. The power supply is sealed in a waterproof enclosure and the wires come through the enclosure via waterproof sealing glands. The power supply has an input power cord on one end and has a red and black wire on the other end that connects to the control housing.

Mounting Bracket

The unit comes with a mounting bracket that is adjustable.

Disassembling the TIR Flood

Main Body Separation


  1. Remove the 3 screws near the rounded back edge on both side panels near the bracket attachment.
  2. Remove the 2 screws near the rounded back edge on the other two side panels above the heatsink.
  3. Lift the rounded rear panel off to expose the Control and Power Supply Modules.


TIR Flood Power Requirements

The units come equipped with a 15A 125vAC 3 Pin Twistlock power plug. At 100% brightness RGB the flood draws 78 watts @116.5vAC. The internal power supply provides 24vdc @ 3.3A to the control electronics. A quick test of the current of the Red LEDs shows to be about 760-780 mA when full on.

AC Power Cable

ConductorWire Color
LineBrown
NeutralBlue
GroundGreen/Yellow/Black


Controlling the TIR Flood

The flood comes equipped with a 5 pin XLR DMX connector. Only the input wires are connected to the XLR connector, but the output wires are also available and they can be soldered to the plug. It is believed that these floods were controlled by a software package called LuminaireFX. This is the Control software developed by TIR for this unit. It's a control system for their "TBus" option.

DMX Wire

SignalWire ColorXLR Pin
DMX IN ShieldRed Foil1
DMX IN +Red Wire in Red Foil3
DMX IN -Black Wire in Red Foil2
DMX OUT ShieldGreen FoilNC
DMX OUT +Red Wire in Green FoilNC
DMX OUT -Black Wire in Green FoilNC


Schematic

TBD

Wiring Color Codes

There is a cable going from the LED panel to the controller, and is grey and marked "LED". It's close to a 25 pin cable, but only 14 wires go to the LED panel. Convention is that the first color is the full wire color, and the second/third colors are the stripe or dash of color printed on the wire.

Lower LED board (4 LEDs per color)

LED ConnectionWire Color
Common (+)Red/Green
REDRed/Black
GREENWhite/Black
BLUEGreen/Black


Upper LED board (6 LEDs per color)

Upper section

LED ConnectionWire Color
Common (+)Black/Red
REDWhite
GREENBlack
BLUERed


Lower section

LED ConnectionWire Color
Common (+)Orange/Red
REDOrange
GREENGreen
BLUEBlue


Thermistor

There is a thermistor attached to a screw on the LED panel. Leads from this are White/Red and Blue/Red

LED Connector

This is the connector marked LED that goes into the controller board. It's a 24 pin dual header. Haven't gotten the measurements yet, but here's the wire connection. Pin 1 is upper left corner as if the connector is plugged into the board. Pin 13 is below pin 1, and closest to the tabs/keys that stick out of the bottom of the connector. Wires are coming up at the viewer. I need to draw a picture, but hopefully that will give folks a good idea.

Pin NumberWire Color
1White
2Green
3Blue
4Red/Black
5Orange/Black
6Black/White
7Green/White
8Black/Red
9Orange/Red
10Red/Green
11Black/Red/White
12Red/Black/White
13Black
14Red
15Orange
16White/Black
17Green/Black
18Blue/Black
19Red/White
20Blue/White
21White/Red
22Blue/Red
23Thermistor \
24 Thermistor / attached to Netburner module


The wires appear to match up, in that the common positive for the 3 sections are pins 8, 9 and 10. Upper LED connections are 1, 13 and 14. Middle LED connections are 2, 3 and 15. Lower LED connections are 4, 16, 17.

Replacement Power Supplies

Non-OEM Replacement Power supplies are available from Ray Wu and DIYLEDEXPRESS.COM

Replacement Control Modules

Non-OEM replacement for the Control Module options include a DCSSR driven by a controller such as the REN48LSD, Simple Renard 32 or the REN64.

Other Information

  • Another Hint: These units may have been controlled by "ControlFX Initializer Software", a Windows®XP application to set DMX addresses of the luminaires using the ControlFX Initializer hardware interface. ControlFX Initializer Device The DMX 512A standard comprises 255 “alternate START codes”. The START code is the first byte of data transmitted across a DMX network. TIR Systems has registered START code 37 (hex) for its exclusive use. ControlFX TM Initializer Device refers to a piece of hardware produced by TIR Systems that is used to initialize its luminaires using START code 37. Only TIR®luminaires should recognize data sent with a start code of 37.
  • US Patent 7394210 is a TIR Patent on controlling DMX lights.
  • The control module essentially performs four functions:
  1. Read incoming DMX512 packets;
  2. Read the thermistor for temperature derating;
  3. Cycle through various color effects; and
  4. Drive the digital-to-analog converters.
  • The DMX512 code produced by the SelectFX controller was non-standard, with a non-NULL packet header designed to communicate color effect and timer synchronization information to the Destiny controller.

DMX Address Translation Board

Since these light responds to DMX Channels 1-3 out of the box, a board is under development to respond to any DMX address and translate it to channels 1-3 to drive these floods. For more info look here.

Documentation

Quick Start Product Guide
Wiring Schematic
Destiny CG Datasheet
Internet Archive Listing of old TIR Systems Web Pages

TIR Flood Discussion Threads

Initial Thread
Flood Fixer DMX Address Translation board

Video

Test Pattern
Outdoor Test
Another outdoor test

Other Photos

A single TIR Flood lighting a house about 15 feet from the front door, pointed slightly upward.

FAQ

TBD