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Revision as of 20:56, 1 October 2012

TIR Destiny CG Commercial LED Flood Light


Disclaimers

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THIS PAGE IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND IS NOT COMPLETE AND NOT HAS BEEN CHECKED FOR ERRORS YET!!

What is the TIR Flood?

These are commercial RGB outdoor DMX floodlights designed and sold by TIR Systems Ltd.. They are Model Number: Destiny CG-WGO-RGB-CUS-V2 These lights were originally mounted on the Duke Energy Building and were replaced with other RGB fixtures. DIYC member rfallatt arranged to buy the lights from the building and offered them to users via a group buy in August 2012. There was a mixture of working and bad units sold. The bad units suffered from water entering either the control module or the power supply. It appears that the water may have wicked up the inside of the power cord and caused the issues. Some of the bad units had the glass face plate broken. TIR Systems (in Canada) were considered the leader in outdoor LED systems and were also popular with large dance halls. They were a public stock company until 2007 when Phillips purchased them. They appear to have shut down operations in late 2008. The manufacture date on the units is late 2008, and based on information, they units were removed from service in 2010.

Manufacturer's Description

  • Effective grazing illumination up to 30' with smooth gradient
  • Effective projector flood light up to 30'
  • Available with narrow or wide asymmetric optics
  • Uniform color mixing with 48 Luxeon® LEDs
  • DMX512 compatibility for dynamic color control
  • TIR® Thermal management system protects electronic components from heat damage
  • Robust construction suitable for outdoor applications
  • Operational and environmental benefits of LED technology

How does the TIR Flood work?

These are RGB flood lights that are controlled via DMX and possibly via an unidentified ethernet based protocol. There is a 5 pin XLR DMX connector that comes configured for DMX input only. Out of the box these units respond to DMX channels 1-3 (RGB) when powered up and connected to a signal source. The address progeamming packets have been decoded and there are several ways to program new DMX addresses into the units. These units will fall back to a test sequence if the DMX signal is not applied. The test sequence is a series of color fades. The units also come with a ethernet cable attached and the control protocol has not been established for using it.

Dimensions of the TIR Flood

Full Fixture (with all connectors) H 14.5 X W 16.5 X 5.5 and ~26 lbs

TIR Flood Components

Connectors

The units come equipped with a 15A 125vAC 3 Pin Twistlock power plug, a RJ45 ethernet interface cable and a 5 PIN XLR DMX cable attached. The power and DMX cable come out of the base of the mounting bracket thru the waterproof cable holders. The ethernet cable is tucked inside the base of the mounting bracket and has a rubber waterproof sleeve on the end.

Housing

The main housing has the sealed LED Assembly attached to the front and has an internal compartment on the back that is open to the environment that houses the waterproof Control Module and the waterproof Power Supply.

LED Assembly

The flood lights have 48 Luxeon LEDs mounted in a sealed module on the front of the unit. There are 16 each of Red, Blue and Green. The LEDs are mounted on two PCB boards. The LEDs are arranged in a 2x6 array for each color on the upper PCB and 1x4 on the lower PCB. This video shows how to test the LED Assembly when removed from the housing.

Control Module

There is a control module that drives the LEDs and responds to the DMX commands provided to it thru the DMX interface. The Control Module is mounted inside a waterproof housing and is attached to the rear heatsink with a generous amount of heatsink compound. Inside of the Control Module there are some HEXFETs that appear to be driving the LEDs (IRL510S). There's a LM2676 5V regulator nearby some of these. The only large chip on the board is on the backside - has a LDT logo on it, with a LD71D1048C designation.

Ethernet Module

There is an ethernet module mounted inside the control module. The interface to this module has not been identified yet. Technical Information about the Netburner ethernet module. The NetBurner module uses the ColdFire MCF5282 processor. Using the Netburner IP program, one user got the following response "MOD5282 Unit: at 192.168.1.47 running :LuminaireFX (3081041) $Date: 2005/02/04 18:42:48 $, $Name: B_Dma6Aug2004_MainTest $".

Power Supply

The power supply is a 100-240 VAC input and 24.5VDC 3.3A output. The power supply is sealed in a waterproof enclosure and the wires come through the enclosure via waterproof sealing glands. The power supply has an input power cord on one end and has a red and black 16ga wire on the other end that connects to the control housing. Midway between the power supply and the control housing there is black shrink wrap on the red and black power leads. If you carefully remove the heat shrink, you will find blue "bullet" type connectors that can be separated by pulling them apart. With the power cord bullet connectors apart, you can them test the power supply output to see if the power supply is working. You can also apply a different 24vdc power supply to the control module to see if it is working.

Mounting Bracket

The unit comes with a mounting bracket that is adjustable.

Disassembling the TIR Flood

Main Body Separation


  1. Remove the 3 screws with washers near the rounded back edge on both side panels near the bracket attachment.
  2. Remove the 2 screws near the rounded back edge on the other two side panels above the heatsink.
  3. Lift the rounded rear panel off to expose the Control and Power Supply Modules.


Removing the Power Supply or Control Module

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Be aware that the power supply and control modules are mounted to aluminum plates. These plates are then mounted to the heavy external enclosure.
Between the mounting plate and the enclosure is white thermal grease. This grease makes quite the mess.
There is an easy way to clean this grease that is inexpensive and safe for people. If you try to remove it with a standard cleaner like 409, it will only smear the grease and not remove it.
Instead, you can use Isoprophyl Alcohol. Any Percent purity is fine. This is the stuff that is less than $1 a bottle and available at any drug store or pharmacy section like at WalMart.
It will dissolve the grease and is safe for contact with human skin! Wear gloves when removing the units to keep the thermal grease off of you.

  1. Some of the units appear to have been repaired in the field and have large amounts of silicone caulking around the base of the modules. You will need to cut away the caulking with a sharp knife and pull the caulking out with pliers.
  2. Loosen the four screws that hold the black plastic housing and base plate to the light housing. You may need to use pliers to remove the screws since they are held in place by heat sink compound. Wear gloves, there is a lot of thermal heat sink compound behind the base plate. Wedge a paint scraper or other thin object between the aluminum base plate on the module and the back housing. Gently pry them apart. The thermal heat sink compound holds the unit tightly in place, but it will pry apart if you have removed the 4 screws and any excess caulking that may be present.

Opening the Power Supply or Control Module

  1. Loosen the Waterproof plastic nuts on the wires entering on both sides of the module to allow the wire to slide through it when you remove the plastic housing.
  2. Turn the module over and remove the 8 screws that hold the base plate to the black plastic housing.
  3. Gently pry the black plastic housing from the base plate with a flat edge screwdriver, it is held in place by a sealant/gasket.

Removing the Twistlock Power Plug

  1. Firmly grasp one pin of the plug with a pliers.
  2. Gently pull back on the rubber boot while pulling on the plug. It may help to stretch the edges of the boot to make it come out easier. The boot will slide back down the wire off the plug.
  3. Unscrew three screws on the face of the plug and unscrew the two screws retaining the cord on the back of the plug.
  4. Slide the assembly out and unscrew the three screws holding the wires in.
  5. The wire color code is listed here.

TIR Flood Power Requirements

The units come equipped with a 15A 125vAC 3 Pin Twistlock power plug. At 100% brightness RGB the flood draws 78 watts @116.5vAC. The internal power supply provides 24vdc @ 3.3A to the control electronics. A quick test of the current of the Red LEDs shows to be about 760-780 mA when full on.

AC Power Cable

ConductorWire Color
LineBrown
NeutralBlue
GroundGreen/Yellow


Controlling the TIR Flood

The flood comes equipped with a 5 pin XLR DMX connector. Only the input wires are connected to the XLR connector, but the output wires are also available and they can be soldered to the plug. The lights can be controlled by sending a DMX signal to the lights on channels 1-3 to control the RGB lights. It is believed that these floods were controlled by a software package called LuminaireFX. This is the Control software developed by TIR for this unit. It's a control system for their "TBus" option.

DMX Wire / XLR Connector

The data connection to the flood light is thru a 5 pin Male XLR DMX connector. Only the input DMX lines are soldered to the plug. The output wires are in the cable and are active. The input and output wires connect together in the control module. There is no DMX termination resistor on the light.

SignalWire ColorXLR Pin
DMX IN ShieldBare Wire in Red Foil1
DMX IN +Red Wire in Red Foil3
DMX IN -Black Wire in Red Foil2
DMX OUT ShieldBare Wire in Green FoilNC
DMX OUT +White Wire in Green FoilNC
DMX OUT -Black Wire in Green FoilNC


Schematic

TBD. The following photos show the highlighted traces on the LED PCBs by LED color.

Internal Wiring Color Codes

There is a cable going from the LED panel to the controller, and is grey and marked "LED". It's close to a 25 pin cable, but only 14 wires go to the LED panel. Convention is that the first color is the full wire color, and the second/third colors are the stripe or dash of color printed on the wire.

Lower LED board (4 LEDs per color)

LED ConnectionWire ColorLEDs
Common (+)Red/GreenD1-D12
REDRed/BlackD5,D6,D7,D8
GREENWhite/BlackD1, D2, D3,D4
BLUEGreen/BlackD9,D10,D11,D12


Upper LED board (6 LEDs per color)

Upper section

LED ConnectionWire ColorLEDs
Common (+)Black/RedLED7-12,LED19-24,LED31-36
REDWhiteLED19,LED20,LED21,LED22,LED23,LED24
GREENBlackLED7,LED8,LED9,LED10,LED11,LED12
BLUERedLED31,LED32,LED33,LED34,LED35,LED36


Lower section JP1

LED ConnectionWire ColorLEDs
Common (+)Orange/RedLED1-6,LED13-18,LED25-30
REDOrangeLED13,LED14,LED15,LED16,LED17,LED18
GREENGreenLED1,LED2,LED3,LED4,LED5,LED6
BLUEBlueLED25,LED26,LED27,LED28,LED29,LED30


Thermistor

There is a thermistor attached to a screw on the LED panel. Leads from this are White/Red and Blue/Red

LED Connector

This is the connector marked LED that goes into the controller board. It's a 24 pin dual header. Haven't gotten the measurements yet, but here's the wire connection. Pin 1 is upper left corner as if the connector is plugged into the board. Pin 13 is below pin 1, and closest to the tabs/keys that stick out of the bottom of the connector. Wires are coming up at the viewer. I need to draw a picture, but hopefully that will give folks a good idea.

Pin NumberWire Color
1White
2Green
3Blue
4Red/Black
5Orange/Black
6Black/White
7Green/White
8Black/Red
9Orange/Red
10Red/Green
11Black/Red/White
12Red/Black/White
13Black
14Red
15Orange
16White/Black
17Green/Black
18Blue/Black
19Red/White
20Blue/White
21White/Red
22Blue/Red
23Thermistor \
24 Thermistor / attached to Netburner module


The wires appear to match up, in that the common positive for the 3 sections are pins 8, 9 and 10. Upper LED connections are 1, 13 and 14. Middle LED connections are 2, 3 and 15. Lower LED connections are 4, 16, 17.

Replacement Power Supplies

Non-OEM Replacement Power supplies are available from Ray Wu and DIYLEDEXPRESS.COM

Replacement Control Modules

Non-OEM replacement for the Control Module options include a DCSSR driven by a controller such as the REN48LSD, Simple Renard 32 or the REN64. The REN48LSD and the Simple Renard RGB+W CAN NOT drive these lights directly due to the high current demand per channel (~0.75A), you must use a DCSSR. A Standalone DMX Controller is available as a replacement controller as well. You must use an additional constant current limiter if you use these controllers. On the LED board, each color channel consists of three separate LED circuits that each need to be separately limited to 0.3A each, so you need a total of 9 constant current limiting devices per flood.

Other Information

  • Another Hint: These units may have been controlled by "ControlFX Initializer Software", a Windows®XP application to set DMX addresses of the luminaires using the ControlFX Initializer hardware interface. ControlFX Initializer Device The DMX 512A standard comprises 255 “alternate START codes”. The START code is the first byte of data transmitted across a DMX network. TIR Systems has registered START code 37 (hex) for its exclusive use. ControlFX TM Initializer Device refers to a piece of hardware produced by TIR Systems that is used to initialize its luminaires using START code 37. Only TIR®luminaires should recognize data sent with a start code of 37.
  • US Patent 7394210 is a TIR Patent on controlling DMX lights.
  • The control module essentially performs four functions:
  1. Read incoming DMX512 packets;
  2. Read the thermistor for temperature derating;
  3. Cycle through various color effects; and
  4. Drive the digital-to-analog converters.
  • The DMX512 code produced by the SelectFX controller was non-standard, with a non-NULL packet header designed to communicate color effect and timer synchronization information to the Destiny controller.
  • The units all have a unique serial number that is listed on the label on the front face plate as well as a standalone sticker on the control module. It looks like: 308-0911. This number will be necessary for programming the lights.
  • 169.254.236.22 is TIR programming box address.
  • If ControlFX Director does not detect the presence of a DHCP server when connected to your notebook computer, the device will assume a default IP address of 169.254.236.22 and subnet mask of 255.255.0.0.

DMX Address Translation Board

Since these light responds to DMX Channels 1-3 out of the box, a board is under development to respond to any DMX address and translate it to channels 1-3 to drive these floods. For more info look here.

Documentation

Destiny CG Quick Start Product Guide
Destiny CG Wiring Schematic
Destiny CG Datasheet
Internet Archive Listing of old TIR Systems Web Pages

Software

DMX Address Change Software

Thanks to a lot of detective work by the DIYC community the DMX address programming packets have been decoded and you are now able to reprogram the lights to any DMX address. There are several tools available to set the address:
Reprogramming with just Vixen and an Enttec Pro compatible DMX dongle
Vixen Based Solution using modified PIC
Arduino Based Solution
SX based Solution
Address Packet Generator

Light Management

ControlFx Designer Software: Used to sequence and program light functions
ControlFX Designer User’s Guide
ControlFX Designer Quickstart Guide
ControlFX Director Quickstart Guide: Hardware Interface that the PC uses to communicate with the lights.

Light Initilization

ControlFX Initializer User’s Guide
ControlFx Initializer Quickstart Guide
TIR Initializer/Director Computer Set Up Guide

Light Design and Emulation

Destiny Wizard: Used to emulate light output

Netburner

IP Setup tool
UDP Terminal Application
Using the Netburner IP program, one user got the following response "MOD5282 Unit: at 192.168.1.47 running :LuminaireFX (3081041) $Date: 2005/02/04 18:42:48 $, $Name: B_Dma6Aug2004_MainTest $".

TIR Flood Discussion Threads

Initial Thread
Flood Fixer DMX Address Translation board
TIR Breakout board
Initializer Software
DMX Cable Adapter Boards
DMX Address Change Details
Netburner Module

Video

Test Pattern
Outdoor Test
Another outdoor test

Other Photos

A single TIR Flood lighting a house about 15 feet from the front door, pointed slightly upward.

FAQ

TBD